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I don't like a lot of changes with LJ, especially that little box that appears when my cursor hovers over the icon. It's annoying on a mac especially when I want to open something in tabs!

Anyway, various things. If any of you are interested, please watch the Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson on Friday night! Tom Kenny, the voice actor for SpongeBob, will be a guest on the show and they will be airing a few clips of SpongeBob along with him. I got to select and edit those clips together! IT WAS AWESOME! :D

Umm... other thing. So Justin, my teacher for Visual Composition, was using LOTR as an example for color and made a comment about how Frodo doesn't change throughout the movie and that's why he has to go to the West. Uhhh, I completely disagreed with that comment because the ring is all about change, it changed Isildor completely, it changed Smeagol into Gollum, and there's this huge point proven that no one can wield the ring because it will corrupt them. It HAS to be a hobbit because hobbits are inherently good and are the most resiliant against the corruption of the ring, but nevertheless, it does change whoever holds onto it. I think Justin's way off on that point, what about you guys o fellow Ringers?

Date: 2006-12-15 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thebluelady.livejournal.com
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Date: 2006-12-15 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theropicus.livejournal.com
You can turn off the hover-y box that appears if you go into your preferences and stuff. I can't remember how to do it at the moment, but I know I did it for my own journal.

Actually, the reason that hobbits aren't as affected by the ring isn't so much because of inherent goodness (the whole thing with Smeagol was that he was an odd one out in his community anyway), but because they don't want power and glory and all that stuff. They want a comfortable home, some good pipeweed, and eleven meals a day. So the ring really doesn't have much to work with when it comes to magnifying Dark Desires of World Domination.

Date: 2006-12-15 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wmchichiri.livejournal.com
I'd like to add, that if you read the books, the Dunedain (the Rangers) all help guard The Shire and other Hobbit lands, and the Hobbits never knew about it. They kept the nasties out. Part of this was a stewardship, as they saw the hobbits as a young race... much alikened to children. They had not the means to affectively fight. There were no wars in Hobbit history.

This changed with the ring.

After the flooding of Isengard, Sauraman actually goes to the Shire, captures it, and with help of some relations of Frodo and Bilbo (the Sacksville-Baggins who have been lusting after Bag End) captures the Shire. The Hobbits don't fight back (again never been to war, etc.) And by the time Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pippin return to the Shire after seeing Aragorn crowned, they find the envionmental peace and beauty of their home gone. It's a ravaged industrial wasteland.

But these four hobbits, aren't like most, they've been to war and fought great things, and they rally the arms, and defeat Sauruaman once and for all. With the aid of more elven gifts gifted to them on their way home (they get horns which will have people answer their call). In the first film when Frodo has the vision in Galadriel's mirror, that vision is a nod by Peter Jackson to this final section of the story, that they knew they wouldn't be able to tell in the films.

In this you see a great theme of Tolkien environment GOOD, industrialization BAD.

Sam restores the shire, through use of the gift of earth that Galadriel had gifted him. Aragon, makes the Shire a protected enclave in his kingdom, forbidden fullsized men from enterting into the shire.

Date: 2006-12-15 10:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theropicus.livejournal.com
*nods* Yes, yes. I'll admit it's been a few years since I last read the trilogy, and about 8 years since Silmarillion, so I don't remember it all that clearly, but the basic thing was that hobbits are happy with their simple pastorial lives and not interested in the rest of the world – Frodo and his obsession with elves was very unusual, both he and Bilbo were considered Odd by other hobbits. Sam, Merry, and Pippin are much more typical of the average hobbit, at least at the start of Fellowship.

Heehee, Sam to the rescue! XD

Date: 2006-12-15 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wmchichiri.livejournal.com
In terms of the books, every hobbit that ever held or carried the ring (be it for a long or short spell) in the end all went to the Grey Havens in the West.

Bilbo and Frodo went together, and Sam, after living a life in Middle Earth (where he serves as mayor multiple times, had 12 children with Rosie, was visited by Arwen and Aragorns son Elessar, has several grandchildren, travels to Gondor and lives for a year with his wife and at least one of his kids), and after his wife's death, leaves the Book (There and Back Again) with his daughter Elanor, and then goes into the West. (September 22 is the date he leaves).

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